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Thunderchief is a great course for a true long arm DG'er, but this MA-60 players finds it's length somewhat overwhelming. There is some redundancy for many of the layouts that just require a "pull back and let'r rip type drives". Water is definitely plentiful and the main natural challenge of the course where there is a lack of trees and other natural hazards. But, length and water are challenges enough, and for those who throw long and hard and like a little "risk/reward", Thunderchief will fit your bill!